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  Ramapo

  by Mit123 in

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  2. beliefs

  how much is ramapo going to cost?

  my daughter in africa meets in a cow shed for her meetings.

  i wonder how many khs in africa they could build if they dropped ramapo?.

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  joey jojo

  The whole project seems in such bad taste.

  A lot of bro's are now travelling extra miles to attend meetings because somone decided that the $$$ from their fully paid off halls would be better spent on other 'kingdom interests'.
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  Best of Topics

  by Simon in

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  2. best-of

  some people had a penchant for posting their topics directly into the "best of topics" area.

  it seemed more than a little arrogant to me that some imagined their every utterance was immediately a greatest hit but maybe people weren't clear on what that area was intended for .... from now on you won't be able to start new topics there.

  if anyone wants to submit a topic to be added there (perhaps an index to a curated list of other topics by a user or on a certain subject / theme) then just start one in "suggestions" and pm me and, if it is suitable, then i'll move it into there.. existing topics posted there recently have been moved to more appropriate areas..

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  joey jojo

  Im going to put up my hand because I think I was guilty of this.

  For my first post I was so nervous for even being on this site and I couldnt find a topic that I thought fitted with my post so I picked a topic I thought was generic. I figured a moderator would sort it out and put it in the right place.
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  Organization is God

  by Longlivetherenegades in

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  2. beliefs

  the belief was jehovah/god is not the organisation when you are a member of the organisation .

  when you disassociate or leave the organisation, the belief becomes jehovah/god is the organisation.

  someone somewhere will tell you return to jehovah or hand you a publication that has the title return to jehovah.. .

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  joey jojo

  As an elder once told me, 'to criticise the organisation is to criticise Jehovah'.
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  Nisan 14 or not?

  by LostintheFog1999 in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  if jesus memorial meal is meant to follow on from the jewish passover celebration, would someone explain to me why the jehovah's witness community are holding their "lord's evening meal" on tuesday 4th april; when the jewish community are not holding their 2023 passover until the 5th april 2023?

  doesn't this mean that the jehovahs have got their date wrong?.

  https://www.londonworld.com/read-this/passover-2023-what-is-passover-dates-and-greetings-4091833.

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  joey jojo

  Pretty sure the calculation used by jws is, 2 weeks from the first new moon after the summer equinox. If that helps.
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  AI Generated Art - Impact on Artists

  by Simon in

  1. social
  2. current

  unless you've been hibernating under a rock for the last couple of years, you're probably aware that ai is the new hotness.. chatgpt gets a lot of attention but equally amazing is how capable ai is at generating art.

  if you'd been ask to name anything that would be the last holdout for humans, creative arts such as writing, painting, and music would probably be some of the things at the top of the list.. yet those seem to be the things that ai can do best.. it's fascinating to use the tools, but one thing you realize is that they are just combining patterns and shapes, there isn't yet any real "intelligence", artificial or otherwise.. as an example, you can ask it to create a painting in the style or a particular artist, with a whole raft of things you want to include.

  it will do a great job on first glance, but can often give people more arms or fingers than is normal, and lamp-posts can grow to different heights, like trees.

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  joey jojo

  I have played with around with it. My first thought was that for anyone that creates digital art, they have just unlocked easy mode for their creations. The only limiting factor is their imagination and how well they learn to phrase requests to get what they want.

  For anyone that creates art, it's an amazing way to get what's in your head into a visual form if you want a reference pic for ideas you have. That makes it a massive time saver.

  It still relies on human imagination to produce the images, so to me that makes it a valid art form. There is talk about royalties being paid to artists because their style may be used by the program in generating the piece but maybe thats just the leeches talking.

  Art has always been about absorbing inspiration from other artists and producing something uniqie.

  'Steal like an artist.'
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  Breaking News: Anthony Morris III no longer serving on the Governing Body

  by WingCommander in

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  2. friends

  this has been announced on the jw's official website, in the "jw news" section.

  this is not a joke.

  anthony moron da turd is out as a gluttonous body member!

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  joey jojo

  Phizzy
  The R&F do not know about this, as earlier Posts in this Thread have shown.

  I spoke to an Elders wife today and she had no idea about this.

  JW's dont seem to want to know about the inner workings. As long as they are not required to think, they are fine.
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  Some thoughts on the message of doom

  by JeffT in

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  2. friends

  one of the recent threads on the talk about the hailstone message got me to thinking.

  the problem with putting out a message like that is what to do when nothing happens.

  i have to think that somebody will be asking that question.

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  joey jojo

  I was about start a thread on this exact topic and thought I'd better check first to see if it has been covered.(It has) :).

  I was thinking if they ever pull the trigger on this, there is no going back, although a lot of JW's would preach this for decades if they were required to do so.

  The comments by Stephen Lett concerning 'the last of the last of the last days' havent aged well, considering he was trying to capitialise on the uncertainty surrounding the pandemic, however, in the meantime, things have pretty much returned to normal.

  If there was a particularly tense moment in world history and they declared a message of doom, how long will it be before even the most hardcore JW's see through it once things return to normal?

  This threat is kind of like an ace up the sleeve of the GB.
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  PRP (platelets) injections, are they effective? Do they REALLY work?

  by Fisherman in

  1. watchtower
  2. medical

  since  health insurance doesn’t pay for prp injections, i am skeptical about it’s efficacy.

  obviously if this treatment was necessary, it would be paid by health insurance.

  don’t know much about prp except that the physician extracts blood from the patient and concentrates the platelets from the blood then injects the medicine into the affected site in the body to speed up healing of a torn ligament for example.. i saw an interesting statement in wt online site saying or implying that sub major components might be a personal decision and also using one’s own blood may be a personal decision, if i understood the information correctly..

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  joey jojo

  Ive had one and I believed it helped. It was a joint problem. I was skeptical at first too.
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  Elder asks my disfellowshipped cousin to leave house while grieving for his grandmother

  by RULES & REGULATIONS in

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  2. beliefs

  fourteen years ago i started a thread on how horrible my disfellowshipped cousin was treated after his mom passed away and the terrible actions on the part of the elders at the funeral home.. 67. horrible conduct by congregation elders at my cousin's funeral.............. well, here we are 14 years later, and things haven't changed!.

  my aunt ( who is my disfellowshipped cousin's grandmother ) was placed in home hospice care.

  the nurse told her daughters ( who are jehovah's witnesses and live with their mother ) that their mom probably has 2 days left to live and that they should call the immediate family.. my disfellowshipped cousin and his sister show up in the early morning.

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  joey jojo

  Ive witnessed simliar disgusting behaviour of elders overstepping personal boundaries regarding funerals.

  No one has any business defining the relationship you had with the deceased. Its between you and them.
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  Removing verses form the NWT

  by Phizzy in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  the jw org has removed certain verses from their nwt version, claiming usually that what is removed is not found in the oldest mss, that claim is fair enough, until you ask a simple question, this :.

  " if you are going to remove interpolations from the bible, where do you stop?"..

  the org.

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  joey jojo

  Gods holy, sacred book, apparently dictated to faithful servants. As the WT says:

  Most Bible writers acknowledged that they wrote in the name of Jehovah, the one true God, and that they were guided by him. Prophets who wrote the Hebrew Scriptures proclaimed more than 300 times: “This is what Jehovah has said.” (Amos 1:3; Micah 2:3; Nahum 1:12) Other writers received God’s message through angels.—Zechariah 1:7, 9.

  The Bible was written by some 40 men over the course of 1,600 years. Some men were used to write more than one book of the Bible. In fact, the Bible is a miniature library of 66 books. It consists of the 39 books of the Hebrew Scriptures, called by many the Old Testament, and the 27 books of the Christian Greek Scriptures, often called the New Testament.

  If it is so trustworthy, why does the WT feel the need to change anything?